Karpathy appears on Dwarkesh Podcast

Appeared on Dwarkesh Podcast — answered that AGI is 10 years away, and, in reaction to the industry's year-of-agents rhetoric, said we will be working with agents for 10 years. He also said we are building ghosts, not animals, likening pretraining to a crude evolution

Why it matters

A rare case of a lab veteran publicly pushing timelines back. The phrase decade of agents became the standard quote for pushing back on the hype

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Pressdwarkesh.comhttps://www.dwarkesh.com/p/andrej-karpathy

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